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02/06/2023 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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01:34:47 PM Start
01:36:32 PM Presentation: Alaska Mental Health Trust Authority
03:02:14 PM Adjourn
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Authority by Steve Williams, CEO; and Anita
Halterman, Chair, Board of Trustees, AMHTA
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                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                     February 6, 2023                                                                                           
                         1:34 p.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:34:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson called the House Finance Committee meeting                                                                     
to order at 1:34 p.m.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bryce Edgmon, Co-Chair                                                                                           
Representative Neal Foster, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative DeLena Johnson, Co-Chair                                                                                         
Representative Julie Coloumbe                                                                                                   
Representative Mike Cronk                                                                                                       
Representative Alyse Galvin                                                                                                     
Representative Sara Hannan                                                                                                      
Representative Andy Josephson                                                                                                   
Representative Dan Ortiz                                                                                                        
Representative Will Stapp                                                                                                       
Representative Frank Tomaszewski                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Steve Williams, Chief Executive Officer, Alaska Mental                                                                          
Health Trust Authority                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Anita Halterman, Chair, Board of Trustees, Alaska Mental                                                                        
Health Trust Authority                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION: ALASKA MENTAL HEALTH TRUST AUTHORITY                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson reviewed the meeting agenda.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION: ALASKA MENTAL HEALTH TRUST AUTHORITY                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:36:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STEVE  WILLIAMS,  CHIEF  EXECUTIVE  OFFICER,  ALASKA  MENTAL                                                                    
HEALTH TRUST AUTHORITY, introduced himself.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp welcomed visitors  from the North Slope                                                                    
in the audience.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ANITA  HALTERMAN, CHAIR,  BOARD OF  TRUSTEES, ALASKA  MENTAL                                                                    
HEALTH  TRUST AUTHORITY  (via teleconference),  introduced a                                                                    
PowerPoint presentation  titled "Alaska Mental  Health Trust                                                                    
Authority: House Finance Committee,"  dated February 6, 2023                                                                    
(copy on file). She provided prepared remarks:                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     The trust  has a unique  place in state  government. We                                                                    
     are  a funder,  but we  also apply  our resources  in a                                                                    
     catalytic fashion  to help  improve Alaska's  system of                                                                    
     care. We  do this  by supporting partners  and bringing                                                                    
     on  new  lines  of   services  by  supporting  capacity                                                                    
     building, workforce  development, and  capital projects                                                                    
     and  through  policy  and planning  activities.  As  we                                                                    
     share in the upcoming slides, we  do this in a way that                                                                    
     prudently and carefully manages trust resources.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Halterman acknowledged  that the  Alaska Mental  Health                                                                    
Trust Authority  (AMHTA) was aware the  system was currently                                                                    
not  meeting the  needs of  the trust's  many beneficiaries.                                                                    
The  trust was  aware  of waitlists,  increasing costs,  and                                                                    
other challenges, but trustees were  proud of the work AMHTA                                                                    
was engaged  in with  state, local, tribal,  nonprofits, and                                                                    
provider partners to support meaningful  change and a robust                                                                    
continuum of services for vulnerable Alaskans.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Halterman introduced the rest  of AMHTA board members on                                                                    
slide 2:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
    Anita Halterman, Chair                                                                                                   
    Rhonda Boyles, Vice Chair                                                                                                
    Brent Fisher, Secretary, Finance Committee Chair                                                                         
    Verné Boerner, Program and Planning Committee Chair                                                                      
    John Sturgeon, Resource Management Committee Chair                                                                       
    Kevin Fimon, Audit and Risk Committee Chair                                                                              
    Agnes Moran, Trustee                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Halterman relayed  that the  board of  trustees was  an                                                                    
independent  board that  provided  governance and  fiduciary                                                                    
oversight  and direction  in achieving  the mission  for the                                                                    
trust.  Trustees   were  appointed   by  the   governor  and                                                                    
confirmed  by the  legislature.  The  trust anticipated  the                                                                    
legislature  would be  considering appointments  for two  of                                                                    
the board's seven members in the current year.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:40:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coloumbe  looked at  the list of  trustees on                                                                    
slide 2. She thought  individuals came from different boards                                                                    
and  were nominated  for the  governor's consideration.  She                                                                    
was interested in how the  board members were selected based                                                                    
on their background and experience.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams  replied  that   the  nomination  process  for                                                                    
trustees was outlined  in AMHTA statute and  involved a six-                                                                    
member panel  including representatives  from AMHTA  and the                                                                    
Alaska  Native Health  Board,  Alaska  Mental Health  Board,                                                                    
Advisory  Board   on  Alcoholism  and  Drug   Abuse,  Alaska                                                                    
Commission  on  Aging,  and Governor's  Council  on  Special                                                                    
Education and  Disabilities. The  trust advertised  for open                                                                    
trustee  seats  and  the panel  received  applications  from                                                                    
boards  and commissions  for review  as a  panel. The  panel                                                                    
conducted  interviews  and  sent  the  governor  a  list  of                                                                    
recommendations for  consideration. He  offered to  give the                                                                    
background of  the current members.  He asked  Ms. Halterman                                                                    
to speak to her background.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Halterman answered that she  had a background in program                                                                    
and planning  for Medicaid. She  had 25 years  of experience                                                                    
working in the Alaska and  Iowa Medicaid programs (with over                                                                    
20  years  in  Alaska).  She   had  a  masters  in  business                                                                    
administration   and  had   served  the   AMHTA  beneficiary                                                                    
population  primarily working  with  government programs  in                                                                    
the  Department of  Health and  Social  Services (DHSS)  and                                                                    
briefly  in the  Department  of Corrections  (DOC). She  had                                                                    
been  on the  board for  four years  and had  served as  the                                                                    
chair since January  of 2022. She was  going through another                                                                    
upcoming confirmation and would  be talking with legislators                                                                    
in the near future.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:43:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams  reviewed the  professional backgrounds  of the                                                                    
other AMHTA  trustees. He relayed  that Rhonda Boyles  was a                                                                    
businesswoman from Fairbanks who had  a family member with a                                                                    
condition  related  to  dementia.   Brent  Fisher  was  from                                                                    
Anchorage  and  had  a   healthcare  background  in  private                                                                    
business. Verne Boerner  was formerly the CEO  of the Alaska                                                                    
Native Health Board.  Ms. Boerner is Alaska  Native from the                                                                    
Kotzebue region  who brought  a wealth  of knowledge  on the                                                                    
state's  healthcare  system  from  inside  and  outside  the                                                                    
tribal  health  system.  John   Sturgeon  was  the  resource                                                                    
management  chair with  extensive experience  in the  timber                                                                    
industry and  other resource development. Kevin  Fimon lives                                                                    
in Anchorage  and had previously  lived in Nome  for several                                                                    
years bringing experience from the  rural part of the state.                                                                    
Agnes Moran  was the newest  trustee and is  from Ketchikan.                                                                    
Ms.  Moran  was  the  executive director  of  WISH  and  had                                                                    
extensive   experience   addressing    issues   related   to                                                                    
homelessness. Additionally,  Ms. Moran  had a  financial and                                                                    
business background.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Ortiz  asked if  all  of  the trustees  were                                                                    
subject to  confirmation by the  legislature in  the current                                                                    
session.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams answered  that Ms.  Halterman and  Ms. Boerner                                                                    
were up for confirmation currently.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:45:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan  surmised   that  Ms.  Halterman  had                                                                    
previously been confirmed by the  legislature and was up for                                                                    
reconfirmation. She thought it was  unique. She asked if she                                                                    
was up  for reconfirmation  because she  was serving  as the                                                                    
chair of the board or for another reason.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams  explained that Ms. Halterman  had been filling                                                                    
out  the   remainder  of  a   previous  member's   term.  He                                                                    
elaborated that  trustees were  appointed and  confirmed for                                                                    
five-year  terms.  At  the  end of  the  five-year  term,  a                                                                    
trustee was eligible  for another five-year term  and had to                                                                    
go   through   the   same  application,   appointment,   and                                                                    
confirmation process.  The process  was outlined  in statute                                                                    
and was the  result of a litigation settlement  of the trust                                                                    
in 1994.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  remarked that a five-year  term meant                                                                    
that no  executive in one  term appointed the  entire board.                                                                    
She asked  if there  were terms expiring  the next  year and                                                                    
year after.  She asked if  the terms were staggered  so they                                                                    
did not expire at the same time.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams  confirmed that terms  were staggered  over the                                                                    
course  of  several years  so  there  was  not a  cohort  of                                                                    
trustees with  terms expiring at  one time. He  believed one                                                                    
trustee may be completing their  first five-year term in the                                                                    
coming  year; if  the  member wanted  to  continue on,  they                                                                    
would have to go through the process again.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:48:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams turned to slide  3 and briefly highlighted that                                                                    
trust  beneficiaries  included  adolescents and  adults  who                                                                    
experience:                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
    Mental illness                                                                                                           
    Intellectual and/or developmental disabilities                                                                           
    Alzheimer's disease and related dementia                                                                                 
    Traumatic brain injuries                                                                                                 
    Substance use disorders                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams turned  to slide  4 titled  "Video- about  the                                                                    
Trust." The video  provided a brief history  about AMHTA. He                                                                    
explained  that  the  history  was  complex  and  there  was                                                                    
nothing  like the  trust anywhere  else in  the country.  He                                                                    
showed a three-minute  video that was also  available on the                                                                    
trust website.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ortiz  remarked that  the first  scene showed                                                                    
an image of the Russian  leader Vladimir Putin. He asked for                                                                    
the reasoning.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams answered that the  image that popped up was not                                                                    
part  of the  presentation  [note: the  video  was shown  on                                                                    
YouTube  and the  image referenced  by Representative  Ortiz                                                                    
was not associated with the presentation].                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  thanked Mr. Williams for  the history                                                                    
included in the  video. She stated that  dealing with mental                                                                    
health  and  addiction  seemed  to be  one  of  the  biggest                                                                    
puzzles  in the  state. She  appreciated that  AMHTA was  an                                                                    
independent entity raising funds  to address the issues. She                                                                    
asked how the $20 million  in grants were directly impacting                                                                    
the outcomes of drug and  alcohol addiction. She wondered if                                                                    
more  Alaskans   were  being  connected  to   more  services                                                                    
resulting in  more results. She remarked  that the committee                                                                    
had been  hearing a lot  about unfilled positions  in recent                                                                    
weeks.  She  stated  that one  of  the  greatest  challenges                                                                    
seemed  to be  filling  the positions  of mental  healthcare                                                                    
providers. She knew many individuals  who were unable to get                                                                    
help  for  their  children and  elders  with  mental  health                                                                    
needs.  She   asked  if   there  were   specific  successful                                                                    
programs. She remarked the programs  needed to be built upon                                                                    
by  the legislature  in terms  of  growing more  of its  own                                                                    
providers, in  addition to other  things that had  been done                                                                    
such as adding in telehealth.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:54:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams replied  that he  would address  the questions                                                                    
later in the presentation.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coloumbe  was  concerned  about  the  recent                                                                    
Department of  Justice (DOJ) report  that the state  was not                                                                    
providing services to children  and children were being over                                                                    
institutionalized.  She  noted  a large  percentage  of  the                                                                    
children were Native.  She found it a  little ironic because                                                                    
it was the  reason AMHTA had been created  because the state                                                                    
was not  providing services for  Alaskans and the  state had                                                                    
been sending residents to institutions  in the Lower 48. She                                                                    
understood  it  was an  issue  to  find the  community  wrap                                                                    
around services; however, she  stated the federal government                                                                    
had threatened to sue if the  state did not fix the problem.                                                                    
She   wondered  how   AMHTA  would   pivot  to   make  large                                                                    
improvements in a short amount of time.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams  answered that the  serious concerns  raised in                                                                    
the DOJ report  released in December 2022 were  to the point                                                                    
of the trust and its role  in helping the state ensure there                                                                    
is a system  of care for children and  adolescents to access                                                                    
early intervention and prevention  to eliminate the need for                                                                    
higher levels  of care  and sending  children out  of state.                                                                    
The trust  would work  with the  Department of  Health (DOH)                                                                    
and the Department of Family  and Community Services (DFCS).                                                                    
He informed the committee that  both of the departments were                                                                    
engaged with DOJ and looking  at the system to determine how                                                                    
it could  be changed  for the  better moving  forward. There                                                                    
were some things  the trust was currently  doing that should                                                                    
have an impact on some  of the issues raised. He highlighted                                                                    
work by  the Crisis  Now Initiative (HB  172 had  passed the                                                                    
legislature the  previous year) to stand  up mobile response                                                                    
teams  and  access  to  care at  lower  levels  for  shorter                                                                    
periods  of   time  in  crisis  stabilization   centers  and                                                                    
residential  centers. The  trust was  actively working  with                                                                    
Bartlett  Hospital   in  Juneau  to  stand   up  chairs  for                                                                    
adolescents  at the  hospital. The  items reflected  some of                                                                    
the ways the  trust was working to help improve  some of the                                                                    
systems of care identified in the DOJ report.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:58:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coloumbe  asked  if   the  trust  board  had                                                                    
addressed or discussed  the idea of redirecting  grants in a                                                                    
different way  to address the  specific issue  identified in                                                                    
the report.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams replied  that  the board  had  not engaged  in                                                                    
discussion  directly related  to the  report that  contained                                                                    
findings for DOH and DFCS.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson  stated  that  had  not  read  the                                                                    
report but speculated that it  talked more about the state's                                                                    
obligations  rather than  those of  AMHTA. He  asked if  his                                                                    
understanding was accurate.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams confirmed  that  Representative Josephson  was                                                                    
correct.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams spoke  about the history of the  trust on slide                                                                    
5. The  history of the  trust went back to  territorial days                                                                    
when  the  federal  government was  managing  a  health  and                                                                    
social services system for the  territory. At the time, if a                                                                    
person did not  have access to care or family  or friends to                                                                    
care for them and their  needs were too high, the individual                                                                    
could be charged  with a crime of being an  insane person at                                                                    
large. He  elaborated that  frequently individuals  had been                                                                    
sent   to  institutions   out  of   state.   As  the   state                                                                    
transitioned   to   statehood,    the   federal   government                                                                    
transferred  one million  acres of  land through  the Mental                                                                    
Health Trust  Enabling Act for  the sole purpose  of helping                                                                    
the  new  state  stand  up  a  health  and  social  services                                                                    
continuum of  care. The legislature had  been designated the                                                                    
trustee of the lands and  the funds generated from the lands                                                                    
were to be the revenues for a system of care.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams continued to review  the trust history on slide                                                                    
5. In 1982, a  man by the name of Vern Weiss  had a son with                                                                    
a  severe mental  illness and  was unable  to get  care. Mr.                                                                    
Weiss  recognized  the  state  had  breached  its  fiduciary                                                                    
responsibility  associated with  the  one  million acres  of                                                                    
land and  had filed  litigation. The litigation  was settled                                                                    
in 1994  and resulted  in several  key pieces.  First, about                                                                    
half of the one million acres  of land had been sold off and                                                                    
the state  had to determine  how to identify new  acreage to                                                                    
reconstitute the  original acreage. The effort  included the                                                                    
participation   of   the  environmental   and   conservation                                                                    
communities,  resource development,  local governments,  and                                                                    
others. Second, to  account for the value of  the lost lands                                                                    
the state had to pay $200  million into a trust deposited in                                                                    
with the  Permanent Fund  that served as  the corpus  of the                                                                    
trust  through  present day.  Third,  the  oversight of  the                                                                    
trust  was  established  through  a  seven-member  board  of                                                                    
trustees. Additionally,  the board  had to approve  a budget                                                                    
for the  use of trust funds  by September 15 for  the use of                                                                    
trust funds  (only the board  of trustees could  approve the                                                                    
use  of  trust  funds).  By statute,  the  board  needed  to                                                                    
include recommendations  to the governor and  legislature on                                                                    
how  the  state  should  spend general  fund  dollars  on  a                                                                    
continuum of care for beneficiaries.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:02:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams turned  to slide  6 titled  "Legislative Audit                                                                    
(2021) Update."  The audit of the  trust was a follow  up to                                                                    
an  audit  completed  in  2018.  The  2021  audit  had  five                                                                    
recommendations,  some of  which  pertained  to the  trust's                                                                    
commercial  real estate  assets.  In November  of 2022,  the                                                                    
trust had provided an update  to the legislative auditor who                                                                    
had  presented   them  the  Legislative  Budget   and  Audit                                                                    
Committee. He shared that  no additional recommendations for                                                                    
action  were  necessary  as   reported  by  the  legislative                                                                    
auditor.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams turned  to  a  chart on  slide  7 showing  the                                                                    
trust's   financial  position   from   1996   to  2022.   He                                                                    
highlighted the  overall growth of  the trust over  time. He                                                                    
stated  that in  spite  of the  national  recession in  2008                                                                    
through 2010, the trust had  sustained itself, continued its                                                                    
grant  making,  and continued  to  grow  moving forward.  He                                                                    
explained that  much of the success  had to do with  how the                                                                    
trust  managed  its assets  and  the  draws taken  from  its                                                                    
assets invested at the Permanent  Fund and the Department of                                                                    
Revenue (DOR),  in addition  to the work  of the  Trust Land                                                                    
Office  to   consistently  work  to  increase   the  revenue                                                                    
generated for  the principal  and income  of the  trust. The                                                                    
chart  reflected  that  real estate  investment  equity  had                                                                    
grown  over time  as  well.  The top  right  box showed  the                                                                    
amounts  reflected  in  the  FY  22  column  including  $531                                                                    
million in  the Mental Health  Trust Fund (shown  in green),                                                                    
restricted and unrestricted reserves  of $204 million (shown                                                                    
in light  blue), and  the real  estate investment  equity at                                                                    
$73 million (shown in dark blue).                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ortiz  asked if  the lighter blue  section of                                                                    
the   bars  reflected   the  amount   of  money   the  trust                                                                    
appropriated for programs.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams  replied in  the  negative.  He clarified  the                                                                    
light blue section  of the bar reflected  the trust's budget                                                                    
reserves. The  trust targeted  a reserve  of 400  percent of                                                                    
the payout  from the  Permanent Fund  and DOR.  He explained                                                                    
that if  the economy  took a huge  dip, the  cushion enabled                                                                    
the trust to maintain its current grant making obligations.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Ortiz  asked   about   the  difference   in                                                                    
management  between the  green portion  of the  bars on  the                                                                    
chart  reflecting the  corpus and  the blue  portion of  the                                                                    
bars reflecting trust reserves.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams answered  that  the corpus  of  the trust  was                                                                    
managed by  the Alaska Permanent Fund  Corporation (APFC) as                                                                    
part  of the  overall APFC  investment. The  trust paid  its                                                                    
portion of the management of  its fund to APFC. The reserves                                                                    
were  a combination  of the  400 percent  he had  previously                                                                    
mentioned. He  detailed that 200 percent  was managed within                                                                    
DOR and  the other  200 percent was  managed outside  of the                                                                    
fund corpus by APFC. He  explained that Callan had looked at                                                                    
how the trust's  assets were invested and  managed over time                                                                    
and  the trust  followed  the recommendation  that had  been                                                                    
brought forward and confirmed.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:08:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin referenced  Mr.  Williams mention  of                                                                    
APFC, DOR, and  Callan. She asked if Callan  was the trust's                                                                    
consultant.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams agreed.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin asked  for verification  the entities                                                                    
were  giving the  trust  the suggestion  of  what the  trust                                                                    
should  be spending  on  grants based  on  the reserves  the                                                                    
entities recommended the trust maintain.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams  answered  that Callan  looked  at  the  trust                                                                    
fund's  4.25  percent payout  of  the  market value  of  the                                                                    
previous four  years. Callan  had determined  the percentage                                                                    
and the  calculation method  allowed for  sustainability and                                                                    
equity over  time for current  and future  beneficiaries. He                                                                    
explained that  the trust had  to ensure it  was maintaining                                                                    
assets to provide equity over time.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin thought  it  appeared  the trust  had                                                                    
been very  successful and  had managed  to get  through some                                                                    
tough times better than other  funds in the state. She asked                                                                    
if  there was  any  sense  that the  4.25  percent could  be                                                                    
bumped up  to 5 percent.  She thought  it could be  fuel for                                                                    
conversation given Mr. Williams'  earlier statement that the                                                                    
system was not meeting the  needs. She wondered if there had                                                                    
been a conversation  about the topic in order  to be mindful                                                                    
of important  investments ahead while maintaining  the long-                                                                    
term goal of sustaining the fund for future generations.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams answered that the  topic had been revisited the                                                                    
prior  spring in  a presentation  by Callan  to the  trust's                                                                    
finance committee on how the  trust assets were invested and                                                                    
the 4.25  percent. Callan had  looked at the  entire picture                                                                    
and presented  it to  the board.  The trust  was maintaining                                                                    
its current structure.  He noted that the  need would always                                                                    
be greater than the trust.  He explained that the settlement                                                                    
did not abdicate the state  of responsibilities to providing                                                                    
the  funding and  services necessary  to meet  the needs  of                                                                    
Alaskans experiencing  any of  the health  conditions listed                                                                    
at the beginning of the presentation [slide 3].                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:11:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Coloumbe  asked   if  real   estate  equity                                                                    
included  commercial  real  estate. She  thought  the  audit                                                                    
seemed  to   indicate  the  trust   should  not   invest  in                                                                    
commercial real estate.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams answered  that real  estate investment  equity                                                                    
included the  seven commercial real estate  properties owned                                                                    
by the trust.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams  turned  to slide  8  titled  "FY24  Available                                                                    
Funding."  He   addressed  how  the  board   calculated  the                                                                    
available   funding  for   an  upcoming   fiscal  year   for                                                                    
allocation in  a variety of  ways. He directed  attention to                                                                    
the  table  on  the  left  and  highlighted  four  different                                                                    
revenue  streams. He  began  with  the investment  portfolio                                                                    
payout and relayed that the  4.25 percent for the investment                                                                    
portfolio payout was  taken off the average  of the previous                                                                    
four years.  The four-year  timeframe allowed  for smoothing                                                                    
of the numbers to  provide more predictability and stability                                                                    
in the available trust funds.  The second revenue stream was                                                                    
prior  year funds  carried forward,  which  also included  a                                                                    
four-year  lookback.  The  category included  balances  from                                                                    
grants that  were not  expended or  not fully  expended. The                                                                    
$2.9 million in funds shown  on slide 8 reflected an average                                                                    
of  the prior  four years.  The third  source was  spendable                                                                    
revenue  generated from  the Trust  Land Office.  The office                                                                    
resided with  the Department of Natural  Resources (DNR) and                                                                    
was responsible for  managing the one million  acres of land                                                                    
and  working to  maximize  the revenue  from  the land.  The                                                                    
office projected  it would generate  about $4.3  million for                                                                    
use  in FY  24. The  fourth category  included low  interest                                                                    
General Fund and  Other Non-Segregated Investments (GeFONSI)                                                                    
accounts/checking  accounts,  which contained  an  estimated                                                                    
$254,100.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams  highlighted a  table on the  right of  slide 8                                                                    
showing the  available funding for the  previous five years.                                                                    
Generally,  there was  some growth  that happened,  anywhere                                                                    
between $1  million and  $2 million  over the  previous five                                                                    
years. He noted the projected  increase between FY 23 and FY                                                                    
24 was about $300,000 due to market volatility.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:15:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  asked if the land  office had started                                                                    
to  look at  carbon sequestration  value. She  remarked that                                                                    
the trust's one million acres  contained some of the largest                                                                    
stands  of  commercially  viable  timber  remaining  in  the                                                                    
state,  especially  from  Icy Cape  to  southern  Prince  of                                                                    
Wales.  She elaborated  that AMHTA  owned  larger swaths  of                                                                    
land than  the State of  Alaska. She stated that  when there                                                                    
had been  discussions on carbon sequestration,  examples had                                                                    
been Sealaska  Corporation and  the Huna  Totem Corporation.                                                                    
She wondered if the land office  had broached the topic as a                                                                    
value to  pursue or  whether the trust  viewed the  issue as                                                                    
needing  enabling legislation.  She  had  heard in  numerous                                                                    
discussions about  trust lands that  the trust did  not have                                                                    
to follow all  of the state policies;  therefore, access and                                                                    
notification   could  be   done   much   more  rapidly   and                                                                    
responsively  to markets.  She  surmised the  trust had  the                                                                    
trees that may be a commercially viable product to sell.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams answered  that the Trust Land  Office looked at                                                                    
all options to maximize revenue  off its lands. He clarified                                                                    
that the  trust followed processes  in place with  the state                                                                    
in  terms of  how revenue  or development  off of  the lands                                                                    
occurred. There  were times when  the trust had  the ability                                                                    
to do  it in a more  expeditious way than others.  The trust                                                                    
was looking at carbon sequestration  and it would be weighed                                                                    
against  all  of  the   other  available  opportunities  for                                                                    
maximizing revenue off of trust lands.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:17:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams discussed FY 24  spending on slide 9. The slide                                                                    
included  a pie  chart  showing how  the  $37.9 million  was                                                                    
approved  by the  trustees for  expenditure.  The top  right                                                                    
quarter  of  the  pie  showed   agency  budgets.  The  Trust                                                                    
Authority  Office  resided  under  DOR and  the  Trust  Land                                                                    
Office fell  under DNR. The  overall operating cost  of both                                                                    
organizations was about 25 percent  of the overall projected                                                                    
FY 24 spend. The Trust  Authority Office was largely focused                                                                    
on policy  work, grants administration,  advocacy, catalytic                                                                    
system  change  (e.g.,  the   Crisis  Now  Initiative),  and                                                                    
focusing  on  meeting  beneficiary  needs.  The  Trust  Land                                                                    
Office was responsible for managing  the trust's one million                                                                    
acres of land to ensure  it maintained value and to maximize                                                                    
revenue off of the lands when opportunities arose.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams continued to review  FY 24 spending on slide 9.                                                                    
The  bottom  quarter of  the  pie  chart (shown  in  yellow)                                                                    
reflected MHTAAR grants, reflecting  trust funds approved by                                                                    
the board of trustees.  The board had approved approximately                                                                    
$9.8 million  to state  departments in  FY 24.  He explained                                                                    
that  the legislature  provided  receipt  authority for  the                                                                    
expenditures in  the budget. The  remaining half of  the pie                                                                    
chart was  comprised of authority  grants (shown  in green).                                                                    
The trust  had the authority  to provide grants  through the                                                                    
state budget process  to its state partners,  in addition to                                                                    
providing   grants    directly   to    communities,   tribal                                                                    
organizations, local governments,  and nonprofits outside of                                                                    
the  budget process.  For example,  the trust  could provide                                                                    
grants  directly to  Juneau  alliance  and wellness,  Alaska                                                                    
behavioral health,  and tribal health organizations  such as                                                                    
the  Yukon  Kuskokwim  Health Corporation  or  Norton  Sound                                                                    
Health Corporation.  The $19.7  million in  authority grants                                                                    
for  FY 24  would go  directly  to the  entities to  provide                                                                    
services and improved systems of  care for beneficiaries. He                                                                    
noted  that $1.9  million of  the total  was designated  for                                                                    
direct   grants   impacting    the   lives   of   individual                                                                    
beneficiaries. Individuals  could apply for a  mini grant up                                                                    
to  $2,500  for  a  variety of  things  (e.g.,  upgrading  a                                                                    
bathroom to be ADA compliant,  purchasing clothes for a job,                                                                    
and paying a housing deposit).                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:21:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coloumbe asked if  the expenditures shown for                                                                    
the  Trust Authority  and Trust  Land Office  reflected only                                                                    
salaries or included leases, utilities, and other.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams replied  that the Trust Authority  had 17 full-                                                                    
time employees  and the Trust  Land Office had 19  full time                                                                    
employees.  The   budget  increments  [shown  on   slide  9]                                                                    
represented  the salary  for employees,  interagency charges                                                                    
to  DOR  and  DNR,  trustee honorarium,  travel,  and  other                                                                    
services and contracts.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coloumbe observed  that  the agency  budgets                                                                    
were close to  the MHTAAR spend reflected on  the slide. She                                                                    
asked if  there was a  limit on  the amount the  trust could                                                                    
spend on administration.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams  answered  that  there   was  not  a  cap.  He                                                                    
highlighted  that the  trust's agency  budgets had  remained                                                                    
relatively flat over the past few years.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  looked at  the yellow portion  of the                                                                    
pie chart on  slide 9 reflecting MHTAAR  funds. She observed                                                                    
it was a  significant amount of funding  for state agencies.                                                                    
She  was interested  in growing  the workforce  and ensuring                                                                    
there  were more  care  providers. She  asked  if the  funds                                                                    
filled the  gaps where there  had been cuts in  state funds.                                                                    
Alternatively,  she  wondered  whether  the  funds  were  in                                                                    
addition to  state funding. She  asked if there was  a sense                                                                    
that the  number of  care providers  were growing  in Alaska                                                                    
because  of the  funding. She  surmised if  the funding  was                                                                    
filling in holes  where there had been cuts  that perhaps it                                                                    
merely maintained the status quo.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:24:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams  answered  that the  trust  did  not  backfill                                                                    
reductions made  to other services previously  funded by the                                                                    
state. He  relayed there were  a number of things  the trust                                                                    
was doing to  try to grow the workforce for  things like the                                                                    
SHARP program  providing loan repayment to  AMHTA community,                                                                    
tribal health, and state  government partners. He elaborated                                                                    
that API, DOC, and OCS used  the loan repayment program as a                                                                    
way  to  attract  and  retain   a  workforce  serving  trust                                                                    
beneficiaries.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams  turned to a  pie chart reflecting  a breakdown                                                                    
of the $9.8 million in MHTAAR  grants for FY 24 on slide 10.                                                                    
The grants were  going to 11 state  agencies, 9 departments,                                                                    
the  Court System,  and Alaska  Housing Finance  Corporation                                                                    
(AHFC). He noted the largest  portion of the funding went to                                                                    
DOH and DFCS.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams advanced  to a table on slide 11  titled "FY 24                                                                    
GF/MH  Recommendations (and  Associated MHTAAR  Grants)." He                                                                    
explained  that  by  statute, the  board  of  trustees  made                                                                    
recommendations for  how the trust  spent its money  and for                                                                    
state  general fund  mental health  expenditures. The  three                                                                    
columns  in  blue   reflected  recommendations  approved  by                                                                    
trustees in August of 2022  and submitted to the legislature                                                                    
and  governor for  state general  fund spending.  The yellow                                                                    
columns  to  the  right  reflected  funding  that  had  been                                                                    
included in the governor's proposed FY 24 budget.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams  highlighted there were  some places  where the                                                                    
[trustee] recommendations  were not  included in  the budget                                                                    
and other  places where  recommendations had  been included.                                                                    
He  detailed  that about  40  percent  of the  general  fund                                                                    
mental   health  recommendations   were   included  in   the                                                                    
governor's  proposed   budget.  He   remarked  it   was  not                                                                    
necessarily uncommon.  He elaborated that in  the history of                                                                    
the trust  when AMHTA made recommendations  for general fund                                                                    
spending, governors  had included  all of the  funding, some                                                                    
of  the funding,  or  somewhere in  between.  The trust  was                                                                    
appreciative  of the  funds that  had been  included in  the                                                                    
proposed budget  and it was working  with the administration                                                                    
and legislature  to try to get  the recommendations included                                                                    
in the budget.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams elaborated  on  slide 11.  He  pointed to  the                                                                    
second  row  reflecting  a  comprehensive  program  planning                                                                    
position,  which was  jointly funded  by the  trust and  the                                                                    
department. The position served as  the point person for the                                                                    
department's comprehensive integrated  mental health program                                                                    
plan developed with  the trust by statute.  The position had                                                                    
been  incredibly valuable  over the  past several  years. He                                                                    
highlighted  the trustee  recommendation for  two increments                                                                    
for Crisis  Now continuum of  care grants of $1  million and                                                                    
$500,000. He  explained that DOH,  DFCS, and AMHTA  had been                                                                    
engaged in  the transformational  initiative since  2018 and                                                                    
significant headway had been made  in the way the system had                                                                    
traditionally  responded  to  an  individual  in  behavioral                                                                    
health  crisis.  He pointed  to  the  special needs  housing                                                                    
grant program  that had not  been included by  the governor.                                                                    
He explained  that after talking  with AHFC and  others that                                                                    
it  had  been  an  oversight;   the  trust  was  hoping  the                                                                    
increment  would  be  included  in  the  governor's  amended                                                                    
budget.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:29:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson believed  HB  172  had been  about                                                                    
helping   people  and   saving  money.   He  asked   if  his                                                                    
understanding was accurate.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams  replied that the  bill could result  in saving                                                                    
money,  but  the primary  goal  was  ensuring the  available                                                                    
resources were  allocated and used the  most appropriate and                                                                    
effective way,  specifically related to law  enforcement. He                                                                    
elaborated that law enforcement  was the default response to                                                                    
people  in crisis,  which meant  officers did  not have  the                                                                    
time  to  investigate  crimes  and   work  on  reports.  The                                                                    
component  could translate  into savings,  but the  bill was                                                                    
primarily about  using the resources  in the  most effective                                                                    
and efficient way.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  shared that he was  thinking about                                                                    
emergency room costs as well.  He asked for verification the                                                                    
Crisis Now model  would require a large  infusion of capital                                                                    
funding.  He believed  structures were  needed where  people                                                                    
would care for  people in the 23-hour to  7-day window under                                                                    
the Crisis Now model.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams  answered affirmatively. There would  be a need                                                                    
for  capital funding  and startup  funding to  allow for  an                                                                    
organization bringing on a new  service to have a transition                                                                    
period. He  explained the organizations  would need  time to                                                                    
phase in  a service,  capture as  much revenue  as possible,                                                                    
and move forward with a program or services that balances.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:31:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan referred to  the special needs housing                                                                    
grant  and  the two  Crisis  Now  continuum of  care  grants                                                                    
[shown on slide  11] that were approved by  the trustees but                                                                    
not included  in the governor's  proposed budget.  She asked                                                                    
if the trust anticipated seeing  the items in the governor's                                                                    
amended  budget. She  referenced  the Crisis  Now center  at                                                                    
Bartlett  Hospital  in  Juneau   that  was  expected  to  be                                                                    
operational in 2024.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams answered  the items  were recommendations  for                                                                    
the  governor to  consider  and the  trust  was hopeful  the                                                                    
increments or  a portion may  be included in  the governor's                                                                    
amended  budget.   He  relayed  that  AMHTA   developed  its                                                                    
recommendations over the course of  the spring and summer in                                                                    
partnership  with  departments.  The  trust  recognized  the                                                                    
departments could  not commit during  the process.  He noted                                                                    
it was  the way the  systems had  operated over the  past 25                                                                    
years.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:33:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan   asked  if  the   budget  increments                                                                    
recommended by the trustees would  fully fund the Crisis Now                                                                    
models coming  online. She asked  if additional  money would                                                                    
be needed.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams answered  that the  increments would  not fund                                                                    
the total need.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coloumbe  believed the special  needs housing                                                                    
grant was  included in  the governor's  supplemental budget;                                                                    
however, she  had not  see the  Crisis Now  grants included.                                                                    
She  looked   at  slide   11  and   saw  that   the  trustee                                                                    
recommendation of $1.5  million. She asked if  the trust was                                                                    
prepared to pay  the amount if the governor  did not include                                                                    
the funding in the budget.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams   clarified  he   had  been   referencing  the                                                                    
governor's forthcoming FY  24 amended budget and  not the FY                                                                    
23 supplemental budget.  He hoped to see the  funding in the                                                                    
amended  budget. The  trust would  continue to  work through                                                                    
the  legislative  processes  to  include the  items  in  the                                                                    
budget.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  thought Mr.  Williams had  stated the                                                                    
comprehensive program planning position  (shown on line 2 of                                                                    
slide 11) was in statute. She asked for clarity.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams clarified  that the  plan  was statutory;  the                                                                    
position was not.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  surmised the plan was  in statute and                                                                    
there may  be a need  to have  a person help  coordinate the                                                                    
plan.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams agreed.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:35:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams  turned  to  slide   12  titled  "Trust  Grant                                                                    
Impacts."  He  noted  that  committee  members  should  have                                                                    
received a copy  of the AMHTA Annual Report and  AMHTA FY 22                                                                    
Investment  Report   in  the  past  couple   of  weeks.  The                                                                    
documents included the  170 grants awarded in FY  22 and the                                                                    
(state and  non-state) organizations that received  them. He                                                                    
detailed that  around 22  organizations had  received grants                                                                    
from AMHTA.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams  turned to slide  13 and discussed  the trust's                                                                    
budget   development  process.   Trust  staff   worked  with                                                                    
community  partners, statutory  advisory boards,  and others                                                                    
to  develop budget  recommendations that  fell into  AMHTA's                                                                    
four focus areas outlined on the slide:                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Established Focus Areas                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
      Disability Justice                                                                                                     
      Mental Health & Addiction Intervention                                                                                 
      Beneficiary Employment & Engagement                                                                                    
      Housing and Home & Community Based Services                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Additional Priorities                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
      Workforce Development                                                                                                  
      Early Childhood Intervention & Prevention                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams  elaborated that  the trustees  had established                                                                    
the  focus and  priority areas  over time  to channel  AMHTA                                                                    
staff and  financial resources in  a focused way  to address                                                                    
key   issues   impacting  beneficiaries.   The   alternative                                                                    
piecemeal approach  was not holistic  and did not  result in                                                                    
beneficial change over the long-term.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:37:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams discussed slide 14 titled "Policy/Advocacy":                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
      Community based Services                                                                                               
          o Housing and homelessness                                                                                            
      Workforce Development                                                                                                  
      Medicaid                                                                                                               
      Transforming behavioral health crisis response                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams elaborated  on slide  14.  He elaborated  that                                                                    
early intervention and having  available services meant that                                                                    
hopefully  individuals did  not go  into crisis  or need  to                                                                    
access  higher  levels  of  care   that  were  more  costly,                                                                    
traumatic,  and   could  pull   individuals  out   of  their                                                                    
communities and  away from  family. Additionally,  the trust                                                                    
worked to use  peers in recovery as a part  of the workforce                                                                    
(part  of the  Crisis Now  model)  to get  individuals in  a                                                                    
challenging time to engage in  treatment services and a path                                                                    
towards recovery.  Medicaid was an important  piece of AMHTA                                                                    
advocacy  because  the  majority of  beneficiaries  received                                                                    
health insurance  through Medicaid. The transforming  of the                                                                    
behavioral health crisis response  system was the Crisis Now                                                                    
model.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnson referenced  the  behavioral health  crisis                                                                    
response and asked  if the trust had any  information on the                                                                    
number of response calls that had occurred.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams  replied the  trust  could  provide some  data                                                                    
related to  the Fairbanks mobile  crisis team that  had been                                                                    
operational  for  a little  over  a  year. Additionally,  he                                                                    
would   provide   information   from  the   Anchorage   Fire                                                                    
Department  related   to  its  paramedicine   response  that                                                                    
included an EMS and social worker.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams  looked  at  a   timeline  illustration  of  a                                                                    
commitment  beginning in  2018  between  the department  and                                                                    
AMHTA to transform the system  (on slide 15). He highlighted                                                                    
that systems change  did not occur over night.  The work was                                                                    
being  done by  AMHTA,  DOH, DFCS,  DOC,  the Department  of                                                                    
Public Safety (DPS),  tribal health organizations, community                                                                    
partners, and trust beneficiaries.  He stated for the system                                                                    
to change everyone had to  understand where it was going and                                                                    
be a  part of the  change to  the extent possible.  The goal                                                                    
was to  create a  system with  parity when  someone accessed                                                                    
emergency response for a physical health condition.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:41:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams highlighted  the work of the  Trust Land Office                                                                    
on  slide  16.  He  detailed   that  Jusdi  Warner  was  the                                                                    
executive director  of the  office with a  staff of  18. The                                                                    
table  to the  right  showed FY  23  anticipated Trust  Land                                                                    
Office revenues from resources including  coal, oil and gas,                                                                    
minerals,  timber, lands,  real  estate,  and materials  for                                                                    
transportation  projects  around   the  state  (e.g.,  sand,                                                                    
gravel, and rock).  He relayed the trust did  an annual fall                                                                    
land  sale  that generated  $2.7  million  in FY  23,  which                                                                    
exceeded  the  revenue  the previous  year.  The  trust  was                                                                    
exploring  the  ability  to  capture  revenue  through  fees                                                                    
related to  public utility easements that  existed currently                                                                    
or  easements in  the future  that would  run through  trust                                                                    
land  parcels. The  revenues from  the  U.S. Forest  Service                                                                    
land  exchange  had generated  roughly  $7  million for  the                                                                    
trust with a  projected $20 million to $30  million over the                                                                    
life  of the  land exchange.  The Icy  Cape development  was                                                                    
AMHTA land  located to the  north of Yakutat  where minerals                                                                    
may generate revenue.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Edgmon   thanked  the   trust  for   an  excellent                                                                    
presentation. He stated that annually  the trust came before                                                                    
the legislature and proved it  was doing many things to help                                                                    
programs in  need in real time  and was at the  leading edge                                                                    
in terms  of innovation such  as the Crisis Now  centers. He                                                                    
referenced HB  172 that had  been passed the  previous year.                                                                    
He believed the potential associated  with the bill was more                                                                    
than the  mind's eye could  see, particularly if  the mobile                                                                    
crisis  centers could  be built  out in  the bush  and other                                                                    
places. He imagined  the Trust Authority did not  do a five-                                                                    
year  planning session  to  project  forward. He  elaborated                                                                    
there were  elements of  the bill that  went along  at their                                                                    
own  pace. He  invited  Mr. Williams  to provide  additional                                                                    
detail on where  the program could go. He stated  that if it                                                                    
came together, its impact would be far reaching.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams  answered  the  initiative  to  transform  the                                                                    
system to  do better  was spurred by  a lawsuit  against the                                                                    
state  by  the Disability  Law  Center  and Public  Defender                                                                    
Agency because  individuals in behavioral health  crisis had                                                                    
been  sitting in  hospital emergency  rooms  or DOC  without                                                                    
committing a crime and waiting  for access to care. When the                                                                    
settlement  occurred,  the  crisis   had  been  used  as  an                                                                    
opportunity to transform the response  to Alaskans in crisis                                                                    
healthcare conditions.  The work  had begun by  conducting a                                                                    
national review of what was  being done in other states. The                                                                    
research had landed  on work being done  in Phoenix, Arizona                                                                    
with the  Crisis Now  model. The  trust had  then contracted                                                                    
with  RI  International  to do  an  assessment  on  Alaska's                                                                    
system  of   care  with  an  initial   focus  on  Fairbanks,                                                                    
Anchorage,  and Mat-Su.  The  assessment  looked at  current                                                                    
capacity,  gaps, possibility,  and what  was needed  to meet                                                                    
the  needs  of  the  individuals  without  overbuilding.  He                                                                    
elaborated that  a work plan  was developed to  look forward                                                                    
on  how to  create  a call  center,  mobile crisis  response                                                                    
teams,    short-term   crisis    stabilization,   short-term                                                                    
residential  up  to  seven  days,   and  higher  level  beds                                                                    
operated at hospitals such as Bartlett and API.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams continued that the  work had resulted in mobile                                                                    
crisis  teams  operating  in Fairbanks  and  Anchorage.  The                                                                    
effort in  Mat-Su was  in the  process of  currently rolling                                                                    
out the  mobile crisis  team. He  elaborated that  AMHTA was                                                                    
partnering  with  other  communities  to help  them  gain  a                                                                    
foundational understanding to know  what they could be doing                                                                    
in their  communities. He  listed Copper  Center, Ketchikan,                                                                    
Kotzebue,  and  Juneau  as  examples.  The  systems  in  the                                                                    
communities were looking  at how the state  could do better.                                                                    
The goal  was not to take  the model working in  Phoenix and                                                                    
plop it  into Ketchikan or  Juneau because the  community of                                                                    
Phoenix  was strikingly  different  from  the two  Southeast                                                                    
Alaska communities. It was necessary  to take the principles                                                                    
and foundations of  the model along with  the capacities and                                                                    
needs  of the  communities  and align  them.  He stated  the                                                                    
process  would take  several years,  but results  were being                                                                    
seen.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon believed it would  be a transformation if it                                                                    
all came together.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams agreed.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:48:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp  applauded   AMHTA  on  its  fiduciary                                                                    
responsibility. He remarked on  the trust's solid investment                                                                    
portfolio  that appeared  to be  well managed  and had  good                                                                    
risk  tolerance.  He  highlighted   that  the  assets  under                                                                    
management  had more  than doubled  since 2009.  He observed                                                                    
that outcomes were going the  other direction. He referenced                                                                    
scorecard  information from  the nonprofit  Healthy Alaskans                                                                    
reporting  increases  since  2009 in  suicides,  adolescents                                                                    
experiencing feelings  of hopelessness, and  alcohol induced                                                                    
mortality rates. He asked what  legislators could do to help                                                                    
the trust further its mission.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams   stated  the   statistics  were   tragic  and                                                                    
alarming. He thought it was  necessary to look at the system                                                                    
as a whole  and understand the myriad variables  that were a                                                                    
part  of one  individual's decision  to attempt  suicide for                                                                    
example. He  stated it  was not only  the health  and social                                                                    
services  sector, it  included  economies, workforce,  jobs,                                                                    
sense of community,  loss of sense of community.  All of the                                                                    
things could  be a  part of an  individual reaching  a place                                                                    
that   was  so   overwhelming   that   they  were   actually                                                                    
considering  taking their  life. He  stated that  the trust,                                                                    
communities,  the legislature,  and Alaskans  had a  role to                                                                    
play.  In  order to  turn  the  curve  it was  necessary  to                                                                    
understand when  an individual was  reaching out in  need of                                                                    
support in addition to funding  services at the current cost                                                                    
of providing  the service. He highlighted  the importance of                                                                    
the  ability to  recruit  and retain  trained  staff and  in                                                                    
making  sure  services   were  culturally  appropriate.  The                                                                    
ability to change the statistics  would require a sustained,                                                                    
concerted,  and  comprehensive  approach. He  stressed  that                                                                    
there was  not one  individual thing on  its own  that would                                                                    
solve the problem.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:53:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson considered  Representative Stapp's                                                                    
question and  Mr. William's response. He  believed there was                                                                    
almost  a near  perfect analogy  involving funding  for K-12                                                                    
education. He  explained there were people  who believed the                                                                    
value of the funding for  K-12 education needed to be proven                                                                    
with data  and concrete accomplishments. He  asked how AMHTA                                                                    
responded  to  the   idea.  He  asked  if   the  trust  made                                                                    
adjustments to  pivot and  go a  different direction  when a                                                                    
specific method did not work.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams  answered that when AMHTA  awarded grants there                                                                    
was  a grant  agreement outlining  the intended  use of  the                                                                    
funds and  expected outcomes. He explained  that because the                                                                    
trust  was an  innovative,  catalytic fund,  there would  be                                                                    
some things  that did not  play out  in the desired  way. He                                                                    
noted the trust could learn from  the outcome and pivot to a                                                                    
different  method.  The  trust  viewed  grant  outcomes  and                                                                    
performance as  a way  to help guide  it in  directions that                                                                    
prove to  have positive impacts for  trust beneficiaries. He                                                                    
highlighted therapeutic courts as  an example. He elaborated                                                                    
that the trust,  in partnership with the  Court System, DOC,                                                                    
and others,  had invested heavily  on in the early  2000s in                                                                    
therapeutic courts.  The investment  had been made  with the                                                                    
idea of demonstrating the value,  or not, of the program. He                                                                    
relayed  the   value  had  not  been   demonstrated  in  one                                                                    
particular  project  and  the  trust  had  discontinued  its                                                                    
funding.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:56:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson noted that  Senator Matt Claman had                                                                    
filed  a bill  related to  involuntary commitment.  He noted                                                                    
his office had been working  intensely on the issue as well.                                                                    
He  asked  if the  trust  had  any internal  meetings  about                                                                    
problems  that  exceeded  the  HB 172  "sphere"  in  that  a                                                                    
mentally  ill person  posed a  real and  palpable threat  to                                                                    
others  and  they  were not  chargeable  because  they  were                                                                    
incompetent to stand trial.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams  answered there had been  no discussion related                                                                    
to  Senator Claman's  bill SB  53. He  relayed that  in 2015                                                                    
AMHTA,  DHSS, the  Department of  Law,  the Public  Defender                                                                    
Agency, and other state and  nonstate entities had looked at                                                                    
the  Title 12  statutes  pertaining to  legal competency  to                                                                    
identify  how they  could be  rewritten and  updated because                                                                    
they  were significantly  outdated.  The  work had  involved                                                                    
looking  at  the interplay  between  Title  12 the  criminal                                                                    
statutes  and Title  47 the  civil  commitment statutes.  He                                                                    
believed  it was  the interplay  Senator Claman  and perhaps                                                                    
Representative  Josephson  were  looking  at.  Specifically,                                                                    
what  happened when  someone's  charges  were dismissed  but                                                                    
they  had  been   evaluated  to  be  a   serious  threat  to                                                                    
themselves or others.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:58:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin referred  to Co-Chair Edgmon's earlier                                                                    
point  about a  gamechanger.  She looked  at systemic  ideas                                                                    
shown on  slide 15.  She referred  to Mr.  Williams' example                                                                    
about  Arizona. She  asked if  Mr. Williams  could add  more                                                                    
context  and  color  for individuals  looking  for  tangible                                                                    
changes in  direction and possible  outcomes in  relation to                                                                    
the data mentioned by Representative Stapp.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson  reminded members  that Mr.  Williams would                                                                    
be  available  to  elaborate  on  topics  discussed  in  the                                                                    
meeting in individual appointments as well.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams   communicated  the  importance   of  ensuring                                                                    
someone had immediate  access to needed care.  He pointed to                                                                    
the crisis  call center  icon on slide  15 represented  by a                                                                    
headset.  The call  center was  a place  for individuals  in                                                                    
crisis to call  where the staff were trained  to address the                                                                    
situation  by  helping  the   individual  work  through  the                                                                    
situation or by connecting them  to the appropriate place to                                                                    
address the acute need.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin  asked  if there  were  any  concrete                                                                    
examples  of outcome  differences  after  Arizona adopted  a                                                                    
similar approach.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams would follow up with the information.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson thanked Mr.  Williams for the presentation.                                                                    
She reviewed the schedule for the following day.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:02:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 3:02 p.m.                                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
AMHTA H FIN presentation 2023_Final.pdf HFIN 2/6/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 41
AMHTA Responses to Commmittee Questions During 2.6.23 Hearing_Final.pdf HFIN 2/6/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 41